Some of them were modified to use the stripper clips used with the Gewehr 98 by milling a slot into the left side of the action and adding stripper clip guides on the top of the receiver. TH 88MauSporter 154 31 Sergeant Feb 06, 2016 #3 Certainly enjoy the 1888 sporters like yours. Steyr M1893 rumanian and netherland mannlichers are just german 1888 with very minor modifications: barrel jacket removed, added rib on the bolt for better smoothness and slightly different ejector. Gewehr 1888/S from Jean's Military Surplus Photo Gallery : Click here for a nice picture collection of fine Gew88 sporters THE LIST IS BY NO MEANS COMPLETE, WE HAVE OVER 1500 STOCKS. You will find early Mannlichers from Steyr as well as German and Austrian custom makers, and you will find custom-ordered takedown rifles and modified Gewehr 88s. Should I go for it? It is sometimes described as a Mauser with Mannlicher features, and sometimes the reverse. It was the German service rifle from 1898 to 1935, when it was replaced by the Karabiner 98k, a shorter weapon using the same basic design. The materials, workmanship and finishing are comparable to fine, modern, custom rifles. Furthermore, the bolt in the M. 1888 is bored out from the front to receive a removable bolt face. If cost is the motivation then the very best thing you can do for yourself from both a cost standpoint and a safety standpoint is leave it as-is with the issue barrel and shoot remington factory ammo. This brings us back to the two major reasons there is only minor collector interest in these rifles. The bolt assembly required 174 operations. I've done some projects that people with more experience questioned, , and I appreciate the questioning it got me to look for answers to questions I could'nt come up with myself, so i'm not trying to change your mind. If you really want a 30 cal, how about a 7.65 x 53? So good was the Commission action that Steyr, in Austria, which manufactured the 88 under contract for Berlin, modified it into a hunting rifle. I've casually thought about what would have to be done to create an accurately rifled bore, and I've concluded that I'm not going to go there. Seller: Kramer Auction Service LLC - Prairie du Chien, WI. Most of the Gewehr 88s seen in the US are the ones that were given to the Turkish forces in World War I and have been modified from the original design. It must be emphasized that these are pre-War figures, and that arms and ammunition made during the War may vary. The compression of the bolt lugs, their seats and the removable bolt head, require headspace attention they seldom get. In reality, however, the Commission rifle was neither Mauser nor Mannlicher, but that rarest of creatures: A mechanical device designed by committee that was highly successful. This bolt was straight as in the standard rifle. Never got to shoot it First time this old girls been shot in at least 100 years. Many of the Gewehr 88-rifles were produced by the armament manufacturer Loewe & Company, whose chairman was Jewish entrepreneur Isidor Loewe. You must log in or register to reply here. From 1905 the rifles were also converted to use the Gewehr 98 type stripper clip by adding stripper clip guides to the top rear of the receiver and altering the magazine becoming Gewehr 88/05 rifles. Your supposed to have a clear shot, not shoot through brush. Isidor Loewe also held a controlling interest in the Waffenfabrik Mauser. Gew 88 Commission Rifle Cleaning Rod Original . To keep pace with the French (who had adopted smokeless powder "small bore" ammunition for their Lebel Model 1886 rifle) the Germans adopted the Gewehr 88 using its own new Patrone 88 cartridge, which was also designed by the German Rifle Commission. It had a beautiful tiger-striped piece of wood that would have been suitable for a high-grade sporter, let alone a military rifle. Buy It Now. I have hunted both deer and boar with mine. Haenel GEW-88 - 8x57JR Pre-War Sporter Description: 24" 1/2 round - 1/2 octogon, raised brass blade front, 1 standong, 1 folding rear, full raised rib bbl., double set triggers, 4 rd. In his entire life he didnt design not even a single screw but he was a very very smart manager and director of Steyr factory OEWG. A brush gun is for navigating through brushy conditions not shooting brush!". box magazine, spoon Mauser bolt, 28 line fancy German sporter round knob stock, creseant steel butt, schnobel forend, 3/4" European leather sling strap, many . . LOEWES GEWEHR 88 - C53931 7.92x57mm Mauser; 5% blue, fair bore, good stock, 29'' barrel, MODEL 1888 COMMISSION RIFLE. The German sporting rifle cartridge for the 1888 is known as the 857 rimless. The actual caliber is commonly about 7.9 mm, that being the usual German War Office designation for the old M. From first glance, that is very obviously a European sporter, so don't worry, it wasn't an American bubba who did it. Dont try to shoot modern 8x57 in it until you figure it out. I wouldn't keep it as an 8 x 57 either, especially after having a had a surplus Turk case head seperate in a 98 action. The same the prized Mannlicher Schonauer: it actually should be named Schlegemilch Schoenhauer cause it has nothing to be named Mannlicher. Some idea of the tremendous extent of these manufacturing operations may be gained from the following figures: The rifle barrel required 54 operations to complete. Pre-Owned. There were numerous blow ups with these rifles, serious injuries and deaths were recorded. Share. 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) mauser hanyang 88 8mm commissioner gewehr 1888 c&r as-is osgah305 littleton, co 80120: used: 5/4/2022: $380.00 : other model 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) gewehr 88 8mm mauser spandau 1889 (read) howard, ks 67349: used: 4/12/2022: $416.13 : 8x57 jrs (8mm mauser) 1888 gewehr 88 chinese mauser b14965 rw mount morris, il 61054: used . It's waiting to be finished and D&Ted. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} The commission rifle saw field service with Germany's colonial expansion, including in China during the Boxer Rebellion (with the Gewehr 88s and the unlicensed Hanyang 88 copies also being used by the opposing Chinese troops),[5] and served as a front line weapon for German troops during World War I until 1915 when the supply of Gewehr 98s increased. Not familiar with the Enfields as After just over 2 years of collecting Milsurp rifles, I Chauchat aesthetic. + $10.00 shipping . Many came home In 1945 as war trophies. If you need to rebarrel it, you can find issue barrels and Rem takeoffs for well under a hundred bucks. Three forms of carbines were made in quantity in the Model 1888. I also have a Turk converted 88 I bought in the 70's for 30 or 35 bucks. In response the German Army's Rifle Testing Commission developed the Gewehr 88 which was adopted for service in 1888. Making the world a better place to live in. The 7.92X57 is a powerful round when loaded correctly, but neither it nor the 06 are magnum calibers, so follow directions!! Lots of military rifles were used as hunting rifles in Germany and all over the world from the 30s-70s. I'm thinking something like 8mm rem mag might even be a possibility. Also with a new barrel I may have a little trouble with the barrel jacket issue. This rifle is in pretty good shape externally, save for a splinter out of the forend on the left side, which I shall have fixed. It should be fine with moderate loads. 7.9257mm Mauser adapted rifles have the receiver marked with a large "S" rollmark. When Germany replaced the 88 with the Gewehr 98, many of the rifles were given to Austria-Hungary and the Ottoman Empire during World War I because both states had a shortage of rifles (however, it was used extensively by the Turkish Army even through the 1930s and 1940s). Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. 98 as modified for them are reproduced herewith. don't bother messing around with the 88 if your goal is a cheap hunting gun. For this reason the Gewehr 88 is also known as the "commission rifle," or "reichsgewehr". We're currently in the process of updating HideTV and you can access the new system and get more info below! The invention of smokeless powder in the late 19th century immediately rendered all of the large-bore black powder rifles then in use obsolete. This began by adapting a Swiss design, resulting in the Patrone 88 or M/88 of 1888, an 8mm rimless "necked" cartridge (bullet diameter 8.08mm/.318 in) loaded with an 8.08mm (.318 in) 14.6 g (226 gr) round-nose bullet propelled by a single-base smokeless powder. There are lots of Mauser 98s out there at minimal cost. Everything good and modern occurred after that, they believe, and nothing much before. I had a nice V.C. I've thought about keeping it in 8x57 but it seems 9.3x57 would be nearly perfect for what I want. There were too many importers at this end, too many small gunmakers at the other end, and far too many variations in between. Haenal7mm-1.jpg Haenal7mm-2.jpg Haenal7mm-3.jpg Haenal7mm-4.jpg Haenal7mm-5.jpg. Get the 76th edition of the World's Greatest Gun Book. ._2Gt13AX94UlLxkluAMsZqP{background-position:50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:contain;position:relative;display:inline-block} from Germany. When I miss, I don't blame the brush for getting in the way. One like yours one with a claw mounts scope. Examples of these usually show first-class workmanship and special features such as folding sights and altered bolt handles. Because I am a rare hunter, I respect the wild game I hunt and under field conditions too much can go wrong even if the hunter is a skilled shot. If you want to search the archives, I'm fairly certian we may have, If you can figure out how to do this, there are hundreds of tousands of. The receiver required 120 operations. Haenel, the primary private contractor, developed a line of improved models ranging from nicely made to gorgeous - but never chambered in the higher intensity modern loads. The M1888 Gew commission rifle is a Manlicher design and was never produced by Mauser. It is true that the M. 1888 was originally reported to use a cartridge with a chamber pressure of about 47,040 pounds. Beautiful. A dainty German guild carbine built on a Gew88 action, not highly ornate, but rather plain; probably sold as a forester's or gamek for sale by Dr Thomas Caceci on GunsAmerica - 957049224 just remember the limitations of each action. Early smokeless powders needed the kinks worked out. Haenels civilian rifles on the Commission action followed the German hunting rifle style that existed since the advent of centerfire cartridges. Save my name and email to use for future comments. Vintage Sniper Rifles . The second was slightly shorter and had a stock which came to the muzzle. That way the use the existing chamber and just recut the neck & throat. The Gewehr 88 (commonly called the Model 1888 commission rifle) was a late 19th-century German bolt-action rifle, adopted in 1888. I have a few in different configuration. Fahrradfabrik] in Suhl on a Gewehr Model 1888 Commission action. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. For military collectors, the Gewehr '88 is almost a cult object, and while it has been widely written about, it is also widely misunderstood. With these modifications the newer design remained in use until the end of World War II. I'd think this would go well with you desire to go from 8 to 9.3MM. What method wuld you ask them to use? What do you think? I have hunted both deer and boar with mine. I agree that a 9.3x57 Gew 88 would be a very cool and unique sporter but on the other hand I'm still wondering if it is really worth putting a $200+ barrel on a $30 gun. (SOME German hunting rifles today are made with the old J- bore dimensions, but that doesnt concern us in the States). The invention of smokeless powder in the late 19th century immediately rendered all of the large-bore black powder rifles then in use obsolete. These factors can be very serious with these early model German arms when used with modern ammunition, even where the bore has worn down. WWI German MG Kompanie Imperial Eratz Bajonett Notbajonett Gewehr 88 no k98. The old bullet diameter of about .318 inch was increased in 1905 to about .323 inch. i have an old mauser in awesome shape could someone help me learn more about it. The sporting model 1888 cartridge uses a relatively light charge of modern leaf powder with a relatively soft bullet. you may not have the rifle forever, so some forethought as to if your kids might shoot the gun someday might skew your build details. If you're going to reload and be buried with it, maybe. I'll have to thread any new barrel (unless custom made for the Gew88) so that it will fit into the Gew action and since I've never done that before I'm worried I'd mess it up and ruin a new barrel. 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